#513 | The Tools to Become a Conscious Leader (Part 2)

What if conscious leadership begins with the part of your life you keep trying not to own? In today’s episode, we get honest about self-leadership, personal responsibility, conscious growth, and the quiet daily choices that shape who you become. Leadership is not reserved for people with titles, teams, platforms, or authority. It starts in the private moments, especially when pain, fear, old patterns, and resistance make the easier path feel reasonable.

We look at what it means to lead yourself first, how unconscious patterns can keep dysfunction alive, and why one harder decision can shift the way you show up in your life, relationships, and future. Stop waiting for life to hand you authority. Become the person your next chapter can safely follow.

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Show notes:
(4:32) Leading beyond your own pain
(8:09) Redefining what leadership really means
(16:41) When pain comes from unconscious leadership
(18:56) Becoming the leader of your own life
(23:54) The first daily leadership commitment
(28:55) The decision that changes everything
(34:49) Outro

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Transcript

Bianca Thomas

(0:00) Taking leadership over your own life is probably one of the hardest things that you can do. (0:06) It's not easy. (0:07) It's going to suck 99% of the time.(0:10) And this is part two of the episode that we did on how to become a conscious leader.

Emilia Smith

(0:16) And if you're not working and applying the tools to become a conscious leader, then you are in the category of the unconscious leaders of the world. (0:26) And let's be real, we don't need more of them.

Bianca Thomas

(0:28) Most of us are looking for hope, answers to the madness, certainty that we'll be okay, and someone safe to help guide us through the most challenging parts of our lives. (0:40) In a world that's changing and evolving every single day, where chaos, uncertainty, and cycles we never chose wreak havoc on our lives, it's easy to feel lost, hopeless, and scared of what the future will hold.

Emilia Smith

(0:56) Evolve Ventures is here to provide that hope, direction, and data-driven strategies to growth-minded human beings just like you every Monday and Thursdays, where each new episode is filled with vulnerable stories, interesting lessons, and simple tools you can use that will help you evolve into the person you were always meant to be. (1:17) My name's Emilia. (1:18) And I'm Bianca.(1:20) And as the co-founders of Evolve Ventures, we are so grateful to be a part of your evolution. (1:25) Let's get into it.

Bianca Thomas

(1:26) Hey, everybody. (1:27) It's Bianca.

Emilia Smith

(1:28) Welcome back, Evolvers, for episode 513, The Tools to Become a Conscious Leader. (1:35) Hot out of the gate on this one because I told Bianca before this episode, I don't really know how to not be a jerk on this one or come off as a jerk. (1:45) So by the end of this episode, you are going to have at least one tool to your journey of becoming a conscious leader.(1:54) And just putting a disclaimer out there, it's not going to be necessarily soft and squishy in terms of tools. (2:00) Some of this is going to be matter of fact, it might hurt your feelings. (2:04) But the reality is what I said earlier, which is if you're not working on becoming a conscious leader, you are becoming a part of the group who are unconscious leaders.(2:15) And trust me, the world does not need more of those.

Bianca Thomas

(2:19) I'm going to do my best to level Amelia out in this. (2:23) Not level her out. (2:23) That's not the framing I want to utilize.(2:27) I'm going to do the best that I can to help us have balance in this, a balanced perspective from both sides. (2:34) Because like we kind of talked about in the previous episode, I am not naturally a leader. (2:41) I am not naturally somebody who thought in this way.(2:48) And I've had to learn this over the last seven, eight years of knowing you, our friendship, and then cultivating this mission together. (3:00) So this is not intuitive process for the majority of people. (3:11) And the reason we wanted to do a part two on this was because of one specific thing that was mentioned in that previous episode, the part one, which is 510, how to cultivate a conscious leader's mindset.(3:25) Okay. (3:25) So if you want to go listen to that one first, I actually would highly recommend it. (3:30) And then come back to this one.(3:33) So that's actually going to be our episode suggestion. (3:35) Again, I'll say it again at the end, but go listen to that one first. (3:39) But what we dove into, it was like three quarters of the way into the episode and Amelia, you had suggested, okay, let's do a part two on that.(3:48) That's what we're going to get to today. (3:49) Okay. (3:50) One of the reasons being a conscious leader and having that mindset is so difficult is because you have to be able to look outside of yourself.(4:00) So you have to, and this is, this is what we were talking about. (4:03) So in order to have a conscious leader's mindset, you had said one of the best ways, and one of the things that you are going to want to do is be able to like look in here and then look outside of yourself to think about others, the decisions, the decisions, the ideas, the thoughts, the beliefs, the actions, all of these different things, and then how to lead in that. (4:32) The question that I had asked you is how the hell does somebody do that when they are so, so deep in their own pain, so deep in their own challenges, so deep in their own world?(4:53) How do you actually do that? (4:55) Because from personal firsthand experience, it feels impossible. (5:00) It's like, how, how am I supposed to focus on you when I feel so terrible?(5:10) And again, this is something that you and I have worked on, and I'm actively working on this, but like, I, I fought you in the beginning when we were diving into this and when you were trying to teach me this and yeah, yeah, I guess let's, let's just start there. (5:27) Like, how do you actually do that?

Emilia Smith

(5:29) Yeah. (5:30) So, so one of the things for framing and catching everyone up to speed, what I shared in the first episode is, first of all, it's not this giant switch that just happens overnight. (5:41) Yes, it does come down to a decision, right?(5:43) There is a point where you literally have to decide whether or not you want to be a conscious leader, whether you want to be a leader or like before you become anything different than what you are, there's a decision, meaning killing all other alternatives off prior to stepping into that. (6:00) Whether you decide you want to be happy or decide you want to have a great day or decide what, how you show up throughout the day, right? (6:08) That all comes down to a decision you're likely not consciously making if you're so caught up in your own pain, suffering, day-to-day challenges, because you're just trying to like get through the day.(6:22) And so I framed it in a way- It's not one decision though, right? (6:24) It's a daily decision. (6:26) It's a daily decision.(6:27) Okay. (6:27) Yeah. (6:28) So it's the compound effect of daily decisions, right?(6:30) But there's a macro and a micro decision to it. (6:33) So the macro decision is I am going to be a conscious leader. (6:37) That is the macro, sorry, that is the macro decision that is really important to decide.(6:43) And then there's the daily decisions on showing up in those footsteps of that macro decision. (6:49) And that's where those micro decisions like today, I'm going to be a conscious leader in the way in which I am capable right now, in the area that I am, I can right now today, right? (6:59) And so I drew upon the example of we, if you're someone who has siblings, you already have the skill set to, like, I deeply hold the belief that we as human beings have all of the intrinsic skills that we need.(7:14) They're just simply underdeveloped. (7:15) So I believe we're all capable of becoming a leader. (7:18) And I believe that we're capable of becoming a leader because the reality is that we have the potential within us.(7:27) Some of us might not ever identify with that and vehemently reject that quote unquote belief. (7:30) And that's okay. (7:31) To that end, if you have...(7:34) Can I... (7:34) Hold on, hold on. (7:35) Super quick question.(7:36) If you have siblings though, you are already exercising some of the skill sets that you're going to need as a future leader. (7:46) Okay, go ahead.

Bianca Thomas

(7:46) Can you define leader? (7:48) Because I think we're... (7:50) I think that's...(7:50) I think we have to start there. (7:52) What do you mean by leader? (7:53) Not everyone's going to lead an organization.(7:55) Not everyone is going to lead a country. (7:57) Not everyone is going to, you know, be a worldly changemaker. (8:03) So can we start off with the premise of what you mean by a leader?

Emilia Smith

(8:09) Yeah. (8:10) Thank you for getting us reined in on a shared definition. (8:13) And I am really not necessarily talking huge world leader skill.(8:18) I'm talking about the day-to-day. (8:20) The person that I'm thinking about is a little league's coach, like a dad, right, who decided to show up as a little league's baseball coach for his son. (8:34) When any other parent could have done it, he decided, you know what, I have a job and my working hours are really difficult and blah, blah, blah, and I'm overwhelmed.(8:43) But you know what? (8:44) I want to be there. (8:45) I want to be the coach for my son.(8:46) I don't know a lick about baseball, but heck, I have work ethic. (8:50) And I deeply believe that if with enough time and effort applied, I am going to be a great leader for these kids. (8:58) So I'm having that person in mind.(9:00) So the definition that I have as a leader, and you can scale this up or scale it down, is ultimately someone who has and cultivates the abilities, the skills, the tools to positively influence a win-win-win, meaning good for others, good for the world and good for them. (9:24) Cultivate a win-win-win with individuals or teams or an other than entity towards (9:35) a shared goal, a shared vision, again, that is good for the world, good for others and (9:42) good for them, that allows them to not only set the course to do so, but a leader also (9:53) is fostering the alignment, meaning when you're off track a little bit, you help everyone (9:57) kind of get back on track and in a way that commits to results that are mutually understood (10:03) by the quote-unquote collective. (10:05) So leader in simple terms, layman terms, is someone who has the ability and applies effort to cultivate the skill sets necessary to achieve goals with others for a win-win-win. (10:19) And when there is off track, quote-unquote, people, when you go off track from that committed goal, fosters the ability to bring everyone to an alignment, like the point of an arrow that actually commits and achieves those results.(10:34) And so whether it be on the little league scale, showing up as a leader, as a leader (10:38) to be a little league coach, or whether that be on a bigger scale in a team setting, even (10:44) bigger scale, global leader, whatever, smaller scale, a conscious leading mom who just had (10:51) her first child, a conscious auntie, a conscious sister, a conscious mother who is learning (11:00) how to respect the adult that was once her child. (11:08) I think that it can apply as a conscious leader, this can apply to anything.

Emilia and Bianca

(11:13) So that's my definition. (11:17) Why do you say that if you have siblings, you all already inherently have that?

Bianca Thomas

(11:22) Because I would, that's not true for many, many people with siblings. (11:31) Many people who have siblings, it ended up being massive sibling rivalry and discord and challenges and like inter-family difficulties, conflict. (11:42) Yeah.(11:43) So given that definition, it's the person who is doing the best that they can to have the skills within themselves to cultivate the win-win-win, that doesn't seem like it meshes. (11:56) So can you explain?

Emilia Smith

(11:57) Yeah, absolutely. (11:58) So the way in which I see it is that was one example to help others identify with the fact that you already do have some of those skills. (12:09) They're just not, you haven't had guidance as to how to cultivate those skills in a way that applies or in a way that is able for you to apply that in your own life, be it your team, be it your colleagues, be it your friends, whomever, right, is the quote unquote team or individuals of choice that you decide to lead.(12:30) And why I say that is because coming from a family with two siblings, so I was a middle child for anyone who needs context, whether you're an older sibling, younger sibling, middle child, the between child, you have exposure to what I would say is the opposite of conscious leadership. (12:50) You having exposure to the conflict, the challenges, all of the downsides, quote, unquote, when, and I say this just because statistically speaking, a lot of parents were not conscious parents. (13:04) And what that resulted in was a lot of sibling rivalry that never got adjusted, like never got met, adjusted, talked about, et cetera, created a lot of families with dysfunction.(13:14) And so by exposure to that dysfunction, you have an exposure into the world that you don't want to necessarily see or you you don't want to put more flames onto that fire to some degree or another. (13:28) And so I think that to be a conscious leader, what what we find is that fascinatingly enough, that's what I call the equal opposite of what it requires to be a conscious leader. (13:39) More often than not, when you see specific films about the hero or the heroine, the guy, the person that has all the responsibility to be the conscious leader, they're the person or the character that doesn't want it.(13:53) Why? (13:54) Because so much of that responsibility, if if you do not apply yourself, you end up becoming the creator of of more dysfunction. (14:03) You end up becoming responsible for the challenges that an unconscious leader ends up creating, just like in a family dynamic when there's an unconscious parent, they're responsible for the family dynamics that are dysfunctional.(14:16) And so when you're a conscious leader, you're likely the person who is stepping into like decide the decision point that creates a better world to offset the dysfunction that you saw growing up. (14:29) And that's why I kind of use that as an example, because you might not think that all that exposure into the dysfunction and all the pain and suffering and adversity that maybe now in your 20s and in your 30s, you're just kind of waking up to how kind of messed up all that was. (14:44) I actually think that that's the garden that you can you can water with a decision point to be able to rechannel that that exposure into a world that you could create as a conscious leader with that decision to say, hey, we don't want to continue this dysfunction.(15:01) And maybe that might be within your own family dynamics as an adult growing out of the family of origin, dysfunctional dynamics. (15:08) Maybe that's you choosing to be a conscious leader within your family and establishing boundaries for the first time. (15:14) Why?(15:14) Because you don't want to contribute to the dysfunction. (15:17) And so take that now, build in another scale onto it. (15:22) OK, now you're going to be that in your friendships.(15:24) Maybe you're going to be that in the team that you work with. (15:28) Maybe you want to be that in the hobbies that you have or the teams or what have you. (15:32) So that's that's really where that came from for me, because, again, I think I see that in so many people, they they have all this exposure to the dysfunction.(15:40) If you ask them the question that they want to have that and cultivate that, the answer is no. (15:44) So then we go over to, OK, if the answer is no and you are doing your best to try to prevent that, what could you do in order to try to prevent that while stepping into the decision point of being a leader?

Emilia and Bianca

(15:55) It totally changes the approach. (16:03) So ultimately, what you're saying is because we all have exposure to.

Bianca Thomas

(16:10) Other people, we all have exposure to. (16:15) Relationships, friendships, work dynamics, colleagues, family, whatever, we we almost always have an opportunity to step into this conscious leader. (16:32) Role, if we so choose, this idea, this belief, this headspace that you could adopt, this identity that you could adopt.

Emilia Smith

(16:44) Yes, and I would ask I would ask everyone to contemplate to that notion, to the pain and the suffering, like how do you go step outside of that box? (16:52) Why do you think there's pain and suffering? (16:54) Why do you think you're so caught up in your own life?(16:57) Is it or could it be because someone did not decide to be a conscious leader and to be mindful about how they as a human being impacted you? (17:11) I would bet so much money that what you're experiencing is a direct byproduct of one or a multitude of human beings in your life, never actually having the courage and the to step into the decision of becoming a conscious leader.

Bianca Thomas

(17:31) I agree. (17:32) And I think the caveat that I'm going to give, Amelia, is that for the majority of people, you can't start start this journey trying to think about the win, win, win. (17:44) I think that is a massive unconscious competency that you have that has been cultivated over the span of your life.(17:53) So like I didn't start there and I'm just going to use me as an example because I'm the only reference that both of us.

Emilia Smith

(18:00) Where did you start?

Bianca Thomas

(18:01) And like we're starting here. (18:03) Yeah. (18:04) I think what you're talking about is like level two, level three leadership.(18:09) Like level two or level three conscious leadership, I think level one is. (18:15) Identifying as the leader of your own life, like if you're in deep, deep, insurmountable amounts of pain and that feels like the reason why you're not going to be able to be a conscious leader for other people, then, OK, you need to start with you. (18:35) Are you actually leading your own life?(18:38) Are you in charge of your own life? (18:42) I think you have to start there because because if you're if you're in a position where you are trying to lead other people, what I have learned through this mission and through this journey, even though it's been freaking brutal and we always have to do the harder thing, even though it's a pain in the ass, you people know when you're when you're preaching something you are not doing.

Emilia Smith

(19:11) Correct. (19:11) One hundred percent.

Bianca Thomas

(19:12) People feel it like you and I are athletes. (19:18) Mm hmm. (19:18) People can people can see it like people can only see us from like halfway through the chest up.(19:24) But like it like if you look at us right now, we look athletic, we look fit, we look healthy. (19:32) So when I go to you and I say, hey, do X, Y and Z, you're more likely to believe it and then to take what I say. (19:40) Why?(19:41) Because, you know, I do it. (19:43) Yeah, you're less inclined to listen to somebody who you can tell only looks the way that they do, either through number one, like plastic surgery or number two, or if they or if they don't have like that outcome, right, if they don't have that thing. (20:02) So people can tell when you are when you are talking from a stance and from a place of not having done it yourself and they lose trust in you.(20:14) They lose faith in you. (20:15) They lose. (20:18) Unconsciously, they lose respect because it's like if you're not if you're not doing it, why am I going to listen to you?(20:24) Why should I? (20:25) It's like the it's like the do as I say, not as I do. (20:28) Worst, worst, worst piece of advice ever of all time, because it's not do as I say, not as I do.(20:36) We are monkey see monkey do because of mirror neurons. (20:40) So if Amelia is sitting there telling me, hey, B, you need to go take the harder path and you need to overcome all of these challenges and you need to do this. (20:50) But I'm going to sit over here sipping my ties with my feet up and I'm just going to delegate everything to you.(20:55) I'd tell her to go to hell because she's not doing it. (20:59) Why would I listen? (21:01) It's clearly a ridiculous example because that is so far from the opposite of who you are.

Emilia Smith

(21:05) But it's fair to describe how like level one leadership is really people only follow because they need to like or they have to write. (21:14) They step into that first version because they, quote unquote, have to.

Bianca Thomas

(21:18) Well, the level one leadership is who am I leading my own life?

Emilia Smith

(21:23) Right.

Bianca Thomas

(21:23) You cannot lead someone else if you are not leading yourself. (21:28) So level one to get to the place that you're talking about, again, from my perspective, and this is a path that I've taken and I'm trying to take is, OK, level one. (21:40) Am I leading and guiding my own life?(21:44) Am I showing up? (21:46) Am I discharging responsibility? (21:49) And am I discharging blame?(21:50) And am I discharging all of my inputs and outputs to the world? (21:58) Leadership, number one, is the full taking of responsibility. (22:03) And I'm still on my way toward that.(22:05) There's a lot of things I don't want to take responsibility for. (22:08) There's a lot of things that it's like, I don't want to have to do this. (22:12) Yeah, I don't.(22:13) This is awful. (22:14) I don't want to. (22:16) And there is that part of me that's like, it's not fair.(22:19) Like, why should I have to? (22:21) Why should I have to go do this shit? (22:23) It's it's it's.(22:25) Yeah, it's it's it's awful. (22:28) It's infuriating. (22:29) And I'm only ever going to get to the position that you're in or to level two or level three leadership when I can take full responsibility for my life, my outcomes, and then be able to do that with and for others.(22:46) So I guess like my answer to this entire question is start with yourself as simple as it is, but it's not simple because it's not easy to do by any stretch.

Emilia Smith

(23:02) The tools for becoming a conscious leader, part two, what I would say is it's it's a very simple lesson and it's a very simple tool that I could give you. (23:12) I 100 percent agree. (23:13) And there are so many different levels of leadership.(23:15) And we could look to John Maxwell, to the five different leaders, levels of leadership, we could look to different, quote, unquote, leadership gurus. (23:25) Right. (23:25) But I think one of the most simple and profound ways to.(23:31) Really lean into that first commitment, which is required to be a conscious leader, is committing to be a conscious leader of the self, meaning you and all your parts, all your behaviors, all your impulses, all of the decisions that you make, all the implications as a byproduct of that and the simplest tool to be able to do that. (23:51) I know it sounds silly, but first thing when you get up, make your bed.

Emilia and Bianca

(23:58) It sounds so simple. (24:00) It sounds too easy. (24:04) But there are now studies that show.

Emilia Smith

(24:07) When you get up and you make your bed, the first thing that you do. (24:12) And when you're making that bed, what you say to yourself, right, this is going to be an amazing day. (24:18) I'm going to be fully conscious today.(24:23) Today, great things can happen, right? (24:25) Whatever you do while you make your bed, that's essentially you sealing the quote unquote mindset. (24:31) I like to visualize sealing the mindset of the day while I make the bed.(24:35) And the studies show people who make their bed first thing in the morning, those are the people that get a leg up on everyone else. (24:42) Why? (24:43) Because they build momentum the first time that they hit their feet on the floor.(24:49) And it sounds so silly, but essentially that's a representation of you taking responsibility for order in your life. (24:56) And order comes hand in hand with responsibility.

Bianca Thomas

(25:01) I would say in tandem with that, it's not just a one off, though. (25:05) Like, I think people are going to hear you say that and be like, oh, I just have to do it once and it's all set. (25:10) Oh, fuck no.

Emilia Smith

(25:12) If you hear anything come from my mouth and think that it's just a one thing, like you're operating from a different mindset.

Bianca Thomas

(25:19) It's not.

Emilia Smith

(25:19) Thank you so much for calling that out.

Bianca Thomas

(25:21) Yeah, no, it's not just, OK, I'm going to lock in this mindset right here, right now. (25:27) It's this is the very first decision of my day where I can go into it, asking myself the question if I wanted to live and if I wanted to be a leader and if I wanted to fully lead my life, what would I do? (25:43) And then if you can repeatedly ask yourself that question in every decision that you make.(25:51) That's how you eventually get there eventually, but it's a conscious all day thing. (25:58) I so like. (26:01) I actually have been doing that, so I've been asking myself if I were to.(26:08) If I were to try to show up as the most like empowered, competent, confident version of myself right now in this moment, what would I do? (26:17) I also ask, what would Amelia do in this? (26:21) All the time, all the time, it's like if I were Amelia and if Amelia were here to make this decision, what would she do?(26:29) Nice.

Emilia Smith

(26:29) And every time it's like, oh, true or false, it's the harder thing.

Bianca Thomas

(26:34) Son of a bitch. (26:35) I don't want to do that. (26:37) It's always the harder thing.(26:39) It's always the harder thing. (26:41) And that's why that reaction came out the way that it did. (26:44) But I also know that that's what's going to get me to the place that I want to be.(26:51) So who is that person for you? (26:54) Now, be mindful of upward comparison. (26:56) You want to make sure that you're comparing to an appropriate person and not not like the fantasy of the person, but the reality of them.(27:06) And if it's not another person, be like, OK, what would the best version of me in this moment do? (27:13) Yeah, start there. (27:14) So like you have to start with you and then once you can lead you effectively, then you can start thinking about like, OK, what is the win, win, win?(27:24) If I were to go into this situation, if me and my if me and my sibling are in a tiff. (27:32) And we're we're in we're in a difficult part of a conversation, it starts leading into an argument. (27:37) Take a step back and be like, hold on.(27:40) What is my intention here? (27:42) OK, my intention is for us to have a better relationship. (27:46) OK, how do I go about doing that?(27:48) And then you go from there.

Emilia and Bianca

(27:50) But you got to start with you first. (27:55) Last tool that I'll give, I'll give everyone one tool that will.

Emilia Smith

(28:03) I'm not going to lie, it'll straight up you're going to hate me for it when you use it. (28:11) But if you consistently apply this, we make approximately thirty five thousand decisions per day. (28:18) If you apply this one tool, not only will you hate me every single day you apply it, but you will thank me years later.(28:30) Because your life will be so much brighter, holistically, you'll be you will outpace all of your peers, you'll look back and you'll see that your relationship is the better relationship. (28:43) You'll look back and you'll see that you have the better body. (28:46) You'll look back and you'll see that in comparison to everyone else, your life is holistically exponentially better than everyone around you.(28:54) Why? (28:55) Because the tool that I'm going to give you is one, what I call zipper decision, meaning it zips up of those thirty five thousand decisions per day. (29:04) It's the one decision you make up upstream that takes care of all of the ones that are micro downstream.(29:10) It is a hack that I will give you that you can start at level one, level two, level three, wherever you start on the ladder of leadership. (29:18) Applying this tool will exponentially outpace your peers and have you living a longer life, a healthier life, higher quality of life. (29:27) What's that one tool, Amelia?(29:30) You ready, can I guess? (29:31) You're not going to like me for it. (29:32) Go.(29:34) Is it breathing? (29:37) That's part of it. (29:39) That's a part of it, especially because of emotional regulation.(29:43) That's critical. (29:44) Conscious leadership, no doubt one of the tools is conscious breathing, but it's not the one that I was going to give. (29:50) The one that I'm going to give you, the tool, is decide here and now I am going to do the hard thing.(29:57) I'm someone who does the hard thing. (30:01) I'm someone who does what I don't want to do. (30:04) Why?(30:05) Not only does that exercise specific areas of the brain that I won't nerd out over right now, but that will help you, your future children, everyone around you get exponentially better. (30:14) Why? (30:15) Because you're doing the thing that you're old, the old parts of your brain that just want to conserve all this energy.(30:21) You actually use that energy. (30:24) And what does that do? (30:24) That makes you a better human being.(30:26) That makes you strong, like stronger in every way, mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, like psychologically. (30:33) Do the hard thing that you don't want to do. (30:36) Make that one decision.(30:37) I am someone who does the hard thing. (30:40) And I always like to say in my head what it really sounds like. (30:43) I'm the person who does the damn thing and the damn thing means the hard thing.(30:48) And if you want to wear that as a badge of honor, you know, welcome to the conscious leadership role where you make that one decision. (30:56) Do the damn thing, which is the harder thing that will take care of the thirty five thousand decisions. (31:02) You won't go back and forth.(31:04) Well, no, whatever is harder. (31:06) Do it. (31:07) You're going to hate me in the moment.(31:09) You're going to love me 10 years from now if you consistently apply that. (31:13) Bianca, you're a testament to it. (31:14) True or false?(31:18) Yep.

Emilia and Bianca

(31:19) But, but no.

Emilia Smith

(31:21) Yeah. (31:22) Yeah. (31:24) But it's truly, yeah, truly it sucks in the moment.(31:27) But man, I'll tell you what, that feeling that you get, it's like after you complete a hard workout, you look back and you're like, damn, that was awesome. (31:34) Like all of the dopamine that comes after it's like, mm hmm. (31:37) All right.(31:38) So that's that. (31:39) As you said, the episode suggestion. (31:43) Let's close out final thoughts and episode suggestion.

Bianca Thomas

(31:46) So episode suggestion is 510 and if this is something that you want more directed help on, directed guidance on, Evolve Ventures group coaching starts next month. (32:05) So at this point, we probably would have already filled it at least halfway, meaning there's only a few spots left to be able to secure your seat. (32:16) We have gotten amazing feedback and testimonials for this program from people who literally said it changed their life and that they are certain that they are going to have a better, happier, holistically more well life because of this program.(32:34) It will teach you conscious leadership skills. (32:36) It's going to teach you how to understand yourself better, how to navigate relationships better, how to stop feeling like freaking shit about yourself all the time and to actually live your day to day from an empowered stance. (32:50) If that feels like something that is in alignment with you.(32:54) Click the link below to secure your spot. (32:57) It's way more affordable than you think it is. (33:01) And it is a way better program than you probably think it's actually going to be.(33:06) And we can guarantee it.

Emilia Smith

(33:08) For sure. (33:08) For sure. (33:09) Full money back guarantee if you don't.(33:11) So to that end, step in, make the harder decision. (33:14) That's a one moment right right there. (33:17) You just heard something that's going to change your life forever.(33:20) It might be the harder decision for you. (33:22) But are you going to do the same exact thing that you've always done, which is let that role before you let you not be the person that steps up into those conscious leadership shoes? (33:33) Or are you going to do the harder thing?(33:35) And are you going to sign up for something like that? (33:38) Are you going to commit to something like this? (33:41) Right.(33:42) That's a tiny example. (33:44) Again, thirty five thousand decisions per day. (33:47) If you made that hard decision up front, I am someone that does hard things.(33:51) Boom. (33:52) There you go. (33:53) That's your first decision point.(33:54) Okay. (33:55) That being said, Evolvers, we keep doing the damn thing. (33:58) And as always, thank you for your continued interest in the science of holistic mental health.(34:04) You're so excited for your evolution. (34:06) Keep evolving everyone. (34:08) Bye everybody.(34:12) We know firsthand how important it is to have a safe space with people who support and celebrate your evolution. (34:19) That's why we created our free live virtual event called Out of the Mud that we host the last Wednesday of every single month, 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, so that while you venture into new territories of your growth, you can get in a room with others who are too. (34:36) Extraordinary topics with evolved people.(34:39) That's what this event is all about. (34:41) What's great, too, is that you don't even need to have your camera or mic on. (34:45) You can just listen in.(34:46) Click the link in the show notes to register for the next topic to kickstart your growth.

Bianca Thomas

(34:51) Be on the lookout for our IG lives that we host every Friday at 1230 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. (34:58) This is a place where you can connect with us live and in a fun, lighthearted way. (35:03) We are also in the process of rolling out group coaching and online courses, and these are sure to help you evolve into a greater version of yourself.

Emilia Smith

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Bianca Thomas

(35:27) This content is intended for information purposes only. (35:30) It is not a substitute for professional counseling or psychotherapy, medical advice, diagnoses or treatment, and does not constitute medical or other professional advice. (35:42) Names and identifiable personal details mentioned in respective podcast episodes and stories may have been changed to protect personal privacy and identity.